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Post by Hook on Nov 3, 2003 1:13:59 GMT -5
Well, it is a good thing that there are not a lot of posts here. The one repeating walkoverist that I know of is Luse. There have been quite a few people that have told me he walked on them.
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Post by Bulletz on Nov 3, 2003 7:51:48 GMT -5
Yes, he is the worse. Insulted me then walked during a League game
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Post by 12OB on Nov 3, 2003 7:55:14 GMT -5
Yeh Luse was really rude to me. He narrowly beat me 2-1, and as he was leaving just said "shit player"
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Post by Bigus on Nov 7, 2003 14:15:15 GMT -5
Yeah, he called me a moron... he's probably got a small penis or something
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Post by Bigus on Nov 7, 2003 14:16:18 GMT -5
I didn't write "thingy" there, btw. darn censorship
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BigMaze
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Post by BigMaze on Nov 9, 2003 6:22:40 GMT -5
I didn't write "thingy" there, btw. darn censorship lol i htink it's great/...... you should type "pussy"
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BigMaze
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Post by BigMaze on Nov 9, 2003 6:23:24 GMT -5
;Di never said girl thingy \ i said girl thingy
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Post by HansKlauvi on Nov 14, 2003 18:27:03 GMT -5
Just wanted to add one thing about Luse. I used to play him in the old days when we both had the same points. Now he's got way ahead of me and his attitute has changed alot. He almost never accepts my challenges and when he does and i'm about to win he walks.
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Post by ReignMakerEss on Nov 15, 2003 1:45:23 GMT -5
I think we should like have group walkover therapy like we have tourneys. Heres how it can work: When walkover fame arises -- we circulate the info. When enuff players know, then we all get cued that the walkoverist is playing one of us. Then as many of us spectate all at the same time (hey how many can fit in that one room n e way?). And then we all start like heckling the walkoverist pushing him to walk. I suggest this be done 2 - 3 per day that the walkoverist plays and i think it should plant reasonable trauma in him - + it would be fun for us -- and actually make the fact that he / she is walkoverist an entertainemnt ISSUES (cuz reign;s got issuuuuuues....hey i used ta be the walkover queen of mini for a piece of time n some change) yahooo
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Post by Bulletz on Nov 15, 2003 15:05:26 GMT -5
Ermmm Reigny that might work, but unfortunately there's a panic button(turn spec view off) for the walkoverists I’d rather go for the subtle approach and b1tch about them in the main channel Another suggestion is PM the walkoverists and hopefully you'll get a reply like "Go **** youself" which you can then forward onto the "Support & Abuse" team
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Post by T110MAS on Nov 15, 2003 22:55:10 GMT -5
hehe gud 1!... btw luse jst walked on me jst cos i played a bank shot...wot a loser...or wot LUSEr...k that was awful, sorry!...
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Post by ReignMakerEss on Nov 17, 2003 6:09:57 GMT -5
Ermmm Reigny that might work, but unfortunately there's a panic button(turn spec view off) for the walkoverists A problem easily solved by having panic option over ride code keepers (thos trusted ones that will not abuse it or ever walk -- like me -- da previously known -- yet reformed -- right-- walkoveristical queen--lol)
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Post by AussieX3 on Dec 6, 2003 1:39:55 GMT -5
Hi guys - first post - love this forum!! Anyway I keep an "idiot list" (check my About page), which features some of Shockplay's greatest knobs (Australian term for jackass). I added Luse to it a few days ago after he walked... Sent him a PM abusing him for the walkover and added him to the list. Next time I log in, there's a PM for me from him, apologising for the walkover and blaming a network error on his end... So I took him off. Needless to say, after reading all your posts on this knob, his name's back on the idiot list!! Keep up the good work ppls!!
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Post by AussieAussieAussie on Dec 6, 2003 1:44:10 GMT -5
Sorry guys, I didn't realise my login had timed out... The above post is mine
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Post by ReignMakerEss on Dec 6, 2003 2:48:17 GMT -5
Reign Duz Luse After hearing that Luse has a special hatred for defense. I asked to be his friend. I thrive on defense...but as tactical play not as like cyberswordsman does (every single shot). Im fascinated by peoples various views. And hes gotten so much bad press i decided to try him out maself. He was very nice at first. We chatted for a while. I told him ive played over 5000 games at miniclip and ive never seen this "compulsive defense" gamin Luse was telling me about that he says is so much a part of the shockplay experience. So, at first i was intending to make his games hell cuz of what ive heard about him. But, it was late, i was tired, and we had a good chat. So i figured...wow...lets just play and see. I played Luse yesterday. He waited a half hour for me to come play him. We had a total of three matches. At the begining of the third match i told Luse that im tired and that will be my last one -- he won the previous 2 matches. It is a strange thing for me but i suck many hours out of the day then all of a sudden my game comes to me. And i felt that happening during the first two matches with Luse. To the extent that by the third match i beat him. And his response to me was nothing but this: "b i t c h " Later that night he IMed me saying that i was a b i t c h for leading him on and making him think i wasnt about defense and then playing defense every shot i got. Well - Luse -- i never sed i was against it. And if by every shot u mean every shot where if i dont play it u win -- then yeah every shot. The next day he asked me what was my drug of choice? Cuz how could i be such a b i a t c h to do that to him. And whatever it is my drug of choice is then he will stay away from those types. So i guess my drug of choice is s e x so i guess u gonna enjoy ur hermit life then Luse. LUSE -- u way exaggerate defense in ur own mind and reallly should get stable love -- cuz ur whacked out on that.
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Post by ReignMakerEss on Dec 7, 2003 19:28:37 GMT -5
Ive mentioned this player in a few places...but wish he was just a walkoverist...
"igetout"
I talked with snapple95 who had beaten this player a number of times. When she played him in a league game tho he all of a sudden was making impossible shots. It is come to our attention that this player may have cheated on league games. If this is something we can address we should have a way to do so.
I approached this player for a game. He played me and i won the first game and he won the second two and won the match then sed "gg loser." and left.
This player is very rude and childish. I tried to reason with him but he wants to be a jerk and keeps telling me how much of a loser i am. So n e one who wants to play him and teach him a lesson i think this should be non-ending. Cuz i gave him plenty of chances to redeem himself. All he is interested in is making me feel small. So that to me is the stuff cheaters are made of.
Reign
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Post by CelinaKyle on Dec 12, 2003 0:26:49 GMT -5
>:(I LIKE LUSE!!!!!!!!!! HE STANDS UP FOR ME!!! IT'S TIME I RETURN THE FAVOR!!! When did this forum turn into a haven for the trash talking of other players? If you don't think Luse is playing appropriately then DON'T PLAY HIM!!! And is there any wonder he is getting worse as Hans-Klauvi has said? Everyone is gunning for him at this point. Most people go into a game with Luse feeling defensive toward him personally and expecting him to behave like an A**hole. I've seen more than enough screenshots of games that he has played where the other player has cursed him out time and again, meanwhile Luse has not uttered a word. We have even gotten to the point that some players are pretending to be his friend in order to provide another bit of gossip for the forum. Another set of players has opted to create another account so that they can now send Luse messages threatening to kill him. The worst part of this one, is that these players are all "GROWN MEN" What is this BULLS**T! I THOUGHT THIS FORUM WAS A PLACE FOR FUN THINGS AND TO SPREAD THE GOOD ASPECTS OF SHOCKPLAY WITH OTHERS!!! INSTEAD IT'S JUST BECOME A HAVEN FOR S**T TALKING!!! *They never taste who always drink; they always talk who never think - Matthew Prior ** Judge not, that ye be judged - New Testament *** There is so much good in the worse of us, And so much bad in the best of us, That it hardly becomes any of us To talk about the rest of us. - Anonymous **** For when the One Great Scorer comes to write against your name, He marks - not that you won or lost - but how you played the game. - Grantland Rice.
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Post by The Wolf on Dec 12, 2003 10:14:31 GMT -5
i never knew about luse getting threatening messages although a little extreme i find this v v funny ;D this guy deserves everything thats been said about him, at least all the other idiots know that safety is part of the game that must be played at certain times, when u play safe against him he insults u then does a walkover im gonna stay well clear of him for the rest of my days on shockplay, i assume most will try to do the same. and celina this site is FUN , it is not just here to talk about good things its also here to talk about the bad things and bad ppl i dont think we should stop slating him just because hes taken a fancy to u hail hail t11omas for giving us all a chance to say what we like , life is not a bowl of cherries all the time and this applies to shockplay too thx for reading
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Post by T110MAS on Dec 12, 2003 10:24:54 GMT -5
hehe ty Wolf m8!!! yes i agre wiv wot u were sayin wolf...Luse is an idiot!...i have put him in my ignore list...(along with Spliff) I once asked to play him and he declined...to make matters worse he PM'ed me on shockers sayin 'point grabber'...wot is the point in that?...i only wanted to play him...i had never done anything bad to him, and he had to do that?...he is PATHETIC...he isnt nice in the slightest...i replied to him sayin that every1 wants to play for points...which is tru!... i was speakin 2 puffe (top dude!) later on and told him wot i av just explained...he sed that he had just beaten him before!...hmmm...luks like, Mr Luse, that you are also out 4 the points!....(only u cnt gt em!) Luse...
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Post by Hook on Dec 12, 2003 13:11:08 GMT -5
**** For when the One Great Scorer comes to write against your name, He marks - not that you won or lost - but how you played the game. - Grantland Rice. I think of all the quotes, this one is the most appropriate. About the only people I bash are cheaters. As the originator of this thread, the only thing I highlighted was the walkovers. Obviously, based on the follow-up posts, this was not an isolated incident with Luse. I don’t play the guy, but not because I don’t think he “plays” appropriately (although walkoverists are the scourge of the earth), it is because the guy is a jerk. In my first stint at Shockplay I used to play him more regularly. Although he was not the friendliest person in the world, I don’t have problems with that and we had good competitive matches. When I joined back here a couple months ago, I played him in my first week, still trying to get Miniclip out of my system. Of course we did not chat much and I hit a push shot. He says, “That was a gay shot”, I ignored it and he went on to beat me. The second game he was also kicking my butt pretty soundly. I hit another push shot. He comes back with “I see you really do like to suck d---“. At this point I ask “What the f--- are you talking about”, he goes on about how gay push shots are and used a few other choice words on describing people that use them. I come back with “Wow, I’m surprised a good player at Shockplay would have that view”. Then, just as he hits the match winning shot he says “That’s the key word, a “Good” player”, then leaves. I play him again a couple weeks later (he finally accepted a challenge after MANY declines). I intentionally did not play defense. I had him beat in 2 games, but he walks just as my winning shot was about to go in.. When I am unlucky enough to play him in a tournament, I have to listen to what a boring player I am (I play to slow for him, I guess), and other crap like that. I’m glad he is nice to you. You are probably one of the few people with over 3,000 points that he plays.
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Post by The Wolf on Dec 12, 2003 13:37:53 GMT -5
u mention the 1 fake name i put in and yes it was very childish of me , but u make no mention of the 10 spots hektor took up, 1 rule for me and another for loverboy?
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Post by Luse on Dec 12, 2003 13:52:22 GMT -5
So all of you guys ( a very vocal minority i may add) have had your fun. I've registered now and what's the first thing i read upon doing so? A refresher for those of you that didn't pay attention the first time:
Quote: <You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise in violation of ANY law.>
OK. On to the disputes...
Hook you are owed better than i treated you. I was going through a very bad period of playing that almost made me quit altogether. This poor play was mostly brought on by being FORCED to play certain games for league with players i have no interest in playing.
Bulletz and the Wolf... you both have always been extremely arrogant players from the beginning. Also not all players at sp are worth the time it takes to even lose a game to them as they are only out to ruin others fun.
The Wolf you have continued to defame me despite my ignoring of your messages and your other antics...from your LUSE IS GAY/LUSE IS KIND screen name, to your best at miniclip account and "stories" to get me to play.
Hans you also suffered from that same poor playing period and if you'd like an explanation of why i stopped played you it is thus: Early on i n playing i realized to playing a few certain players winning was back and forth and I'd go days without a true gain in points or stature. I tried to eliminate that and our games were soon forgotten.
T110mas you are in fact a "point chaser", your record of 700 wins for 10000 points proves that. And your recent challenge and my decline was for you to gain more information to post here. (FYI the game with Puffe was a tourny game in which he challenged me. He's also on my friends list and has been since almost the beginning.) The limited respect you get is from admining this forum not from your play which is almost entirely composed of defense. BTW english is a language you should learn, love and respect at least for our sake.
Ah reignmaker, someone who came to me with the express purpose of giving her posts SOME kind of content. Who am i to let her down? I'll leave you be as your own words (on this forum and otherwise) and actions are punishment enough for yourself.
Aussie and bigus...those of us who can't lead, follow.
To celinakyle defending me... I'm glad someone with intelligence is on my side. THANK YOU.
In closing I'd like to add that I'm an old school miniclip player where defense was sparse and my game has continued to be as such. One look at the top players will find that I'm one of the least defensive highest ranked players so if that causes a certain amount of envy so be it. Since the linking of this board the attacks to me personally have increased, from billy joe, to "you are dead soon" boy, and all the others who read these posts and don't know me at all, to this i say: THINK FOR YOURSELF, BOREDOM IS COMPLACENCY, COMPLACENCY IS DEATH.
Luse
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Post by lacey on Dec 12, 2003 14:04:35 GMT -5
Luse has never been less than kind and patient with me...teaching me shots and losing points in the process...coming to my defense when he thought his friend had stepped out of line with me...good grief....enough is enough...leave him alone and let him play his game in peace.
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Post by The Wolf on Dec 12, 2003 14:23:07 GMT -5
i said those things coz they deserved to be said, i have only played luse 2 times , the 2 times i was winning and on the last shots he walked both times . this is bad enough without the name calling and bad lanuage this person is in my opinion the biggest idiot on shockplay , quite a statement considering hes 1 of the idiots that dont cheat anyway maybe hes grew up a little now and we can all get along best of luck to u luse
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Post by Hektor on Dec 12, 2003 15:10:26 GMT -5
I also like Luse, he's a nice guy and has always been nice to me. I understand that hook posts up that he has walked on him and see nothing wrong in that, but this harrassing this thread has developed to is in my opinion WRONG. Some people here has been sinking to a level that is way lower than any walkover-player ever done. When a thread takes it so far that fully grown men makes accounts and threaten another guy to his life it has gone too far... For you that have a problem with Luse, why not just ignore him and let him do his race, I'm sure that it would be the best for all. There is no point in bad mouthing another person for his personality on a message board, that's just pathetic and ridiculous...
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Hook
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Post by Hook on Dec 12, 2003 15:17:43 GMT -5
Celina, Very good points. It is extremely childish for someone to create cruel screen names (thanks to Wolfe for admitting it, wonder if he could request Rocketman to delete it). The threatening messages are a whole different story. It is one thing to not like someone, or even despise someone, but, as many people have stated this is only a game… Death threats!?! Wow! A sad commentary on those players, I mean come on people, get a life!
Luse, Congratulations for stepping up, coming out here and posting. To me at least, that say’s a great deal. I’m sure it sucks logging onto a site and seeing all this stuff posted about you. I think it is very sad that you are subjected to those personal attacks. Like I said, I don’t play you because I think you are a jerk, opinions are subject to change though. For someone to take it to the level of death threats is almost unbelievable. You make a number of points in your post. I think the burning question that begs to be answered is “Why all the walkovers?”
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Post by ReignMakerEss on Dec 12, 2003 16:19:55 GMT -5
We have even gotten to the point that some players are pretending to be his friend in order to provide another bit of gossip for the forum. Well I guess that’s meant for me. First off id like to commend u Celina for those who are most disliked here who tend to find u refreshing (like cyberswordsman and luse). I think that’s awesome. And in fact a lot of what I do at miniclip as well. For I think the underdog deserves more support from hearts that care…and u have been that for many…WAY awesome. However, as far as my needing filler to post about…lol…I think u of all people know I don’t need n e one to help me post. I do fine with my own observations. Im not in lack of material. If nothing is going on or if whatever the last member posted is shinning on its own…I so honor that reality—and let it be—cuz its poetry to leave well enuff alone and let it shine on its own / or if nothing needs to be sed atm, then why waist ma words. I like to see content for contents sake and how it servers others. I don’t ever want to get in the way of certain thread logic flow if it servers no purpose. So, im really not out to look for events to post like a journalist looks for stories to keep his job. And if I am looking for that, it always leans to expose my heart and not mere dirt. In some cases – like igetout – he just outright ticked me off. And I don’t get to that level in a heartbeat. I spent like 45 minutes trying to reason with “igetout” so I would not have to go and post about him – cuz he so deserved it. So he’s a really good example of a post that didn’t have to be. And a good example of an opportunity I gave someone an out with who saw no reason for resolve. He was an a s s and wanted me to know it. End of story. And even tho “igetout” was an a s s I still pursued him for 45 minutes trying to reason him out of that ignorant state with me. Posting was my last option VERY LAST – not my first (or even a hopeful intent to do so—I don’t need to think the way of what my next post will be—life has enuff variety in it—I don’t need to look for it). I gave igetout a mess of opportunities to re-challenge me so we could further talk and reason. When he would not do so…I offered other players for him to play that would offer him a good challenge, such as sniper, and made efforts to befriend him even tho he was being a jerk and not EVEN deserving of it. So all that to say, that that is my heart concerning the matters of the how and y I post. I put a lot of thot into what I do and say – and I think u know it shows. Just cuz the events with luse turned out the way they did with me – don’t mean his assessment (or urs in this matter) are correct. Im fine with agreeing not to agree about it. But if u look at how I laid out the events with luse I made accurate statements of the account. Not leaving out such things as luse having a good conversation with me and his waiting IN GREEN MODE a half hour to play me. Cuz that’s what happen and I appreciate him for that. Yes I did add luse as a friend to play him. Yes I did tell him I wanted to play him cuz he hated defense. But more so what I didn’t tell him was that I had talked with Hook about him (a conversation about defense came up and I asked hook about luse). And I did not like the way he treated hook from what I heard. So my approaching luse was about my honor of hook and not about my need to post. But when luse was very nice with me and we had a good talk and he waited for me for half an hour, I thought maybe he was just going thru a bad spell with hook, and y not give him a chance. Luse played defense too, so I did where I thot it was necessary. Perhaps he was upset that I won the last match using defense. And as I posted – luse considered my proper use of defense as excessive. That’s on him not me. He played it first – I made sure not to in case we were to be friends. But I guess it makes sense that someone who would consider me a pregnant dog for properly thinking bad about him (which luse did admit he was wrong to hook regarding), would also be fuzzy about what kind of defense was being played. Ah reignmaker, someone who came to me with the express purpose of giving her posts SOME kind of content. Who am i to let her down? I'll leave you be as your own words (on this forum and otherwise) and actions are punishment enough for yourself. Dearest luse, First off love, I told u I wanted to play u cuz I heard u hated defense. By that, I didn’t mean I agreed with u. If u think that is deceptive, im sorry. I don’t need to disguise my efforts and motives. Our conversation that followed that was all about how I didn’t see defense the way u did. I thot that might have been reasonable disclosure of my motives. I never sed I didn’t play defense. But I liked our conversation and the fact that u patiently waited for me. And I was gonna honor u totally by not playing defense if u did not. But u did – so, I thot it was cool. Maybe ur the one who set me up to make me think u were cool and then call me pregnant dog for playing according to the rules I let u set for the game. To me, I think ur just being paranoid. Cuz I realize u have members here that dislike u and u know that. So even tho I came to u as I did – I was giving u a chance to show ur true colors. Not for the forum but so that I could go back to hook and tell him of my experience with u. At that time, my decision about u was merely based on hooks experience with u. But I don’t just take n e ones word for it. I wanted to find out what u were about for myself. Forgive me for giving u a chance that ‘u blew.” In the miniclip forum, I don’t mind looking stupid to support others. Ask hook. I stood up for Gloria for two solid posting weeks while everyone was bashing her and calling her a cheat. Gloria was not even a member with proboards20 and I still went to bat for her. She told me she would join, but left me to hang out to dry – so I just left it alone. But I looked pretty lame for a while going to bat for someone I don’t even know. It was cuz she was the underdog – just like in ways u are luse. I don’t mind defending those that are thrashed – I thrive on it. So for me to post about u like I did was a result of how u handled it. Don’t blame me for ur mistakes. I thot u were man enuff to enter my world. I guess Im wrong. In another case on miniclip, “GoodGameWanted” has also been accused of being a cheat. I look stupid over supporting him as well. But im willing to if reality warrants it. In ur case u dissed me. And then shut communication down with me. U say: “I'll leave you be as your own words (on this forum and otherwise) and actions are punishment enough for yourself.” Well that’s find cuz I do fine. And I know in my heart I don’t have a greed to post slander. Its good u don’t deny the events, cuz at least u are not disputing that it is very accurate how it happened. Except for my motives—which u have misjudged me on very much so. Ur the one who came to a resolve about me – a prejudiced one. So u live with urs. My post about u ended by my saying that u r extreme about ur view of defense. And that kind of conclusion invites u to respond. And ur willing to be man enuff to apologize to hook, but ur not man enuff to consider my position. And that’s fine. Cuz, my hope in starting n e of this was to get some kind of closure about how u treated hook. So u think its about me needing material to post – well u just did the very thing I set out to do before I ever considered posting – and that was to see y u have a need to dis hook. So u apologized and that was better than any result I had anticipated from u. So, yeah my actions punishment enough for myself. Cuz what just happened here is a result of my posting…lol…ur welcome.
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Post by ReignMakerEss on Dec 12, 2003 16:58:29 GMT -5
I also like Luse, he's a nice guy and has always been nice to me. 8-)For you that have a problem with Luse, why not just ignore him and let him do his race, I'm sure that it would be the best for all. There is no point in bad mouthing another person for his personality on a message board, that's just pathetic and ridiculous... Hi Hektor...lol...i miss u love Well, i appreciate ur comments. It would be nice if we never had to go to war either. And i would assume that ur knowledge of the world not being a kind place is what prompts u to say that u prefer healing to dissin...and i so agree. But to me this is what we got. And this is free speech. As i sed, i appreciate ur comments and agree. However, i think just like some see spanking a child as evil while others see it as corrective measure that profit the child, so can dissenting discourse be. From what I see, if we all learned to talk and reason with each other in the gaming area, additional comments would not need to be made. However, that has not been the case. So for those who pre-judge, run, and shut out others by their preconceived notions – leave an avenue to pursue such as this forum. So, it might be considerate of all to work things out before it needs to come to the world court forum. But those that are stubborn invite themselves to be aired publicly cuz they don’t seem to like to resolve issues in a respectable manner to begin with. And in my situation, Hook got his apology. That makes me very happy. And I think justice has been served. Do u think that apology would have come so ez or EVEN at all had this not been brought to the world courts attention? Hey, even if it had, Hook deserved an apology a lot sooner. And that’s y its good to deal with our issues IN THE FIRST PLACE. lol
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Post by T110MAS on Dec 12, 2003 17:05:12 GMT -5
T110mas you are in fact a "point chaser", your record of 700 wins for 10000 points proves that. And your recent challenge and my decline was for you to gain more information to post here. (FYI the game with Puffe was a tourny game in which he challenged me. He's also on my friends list and has been since almost the beginning.) The limited respect you get is from admining this forum not from your play which is almost entirely composed of defense. BTW english is a language you should learn, love and respect at least for our sake. haha...ur presence here was inevitable...how does that prove im a point chaser?...cos i av a good record?...u cnt handle that?...its cos im a good player man... wots that crap bout u declinin so i ad info here?...wot a load of bull u tlk...hehe become friends wiv swords if u aint already... as to tlkin in txt...u livin in old skool man...im the nu kid on the block, and ill write how i wish...oh and finally to counter the bull u jst spoke...my respect has merelygained from admining this...how wud u no if i had respect before anyway?...speak bak punk cos u aint got any proof to bak up yo sorry ass!
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Post by The Wolf on Dec 12, 2003 17:56:05 GMT -5
here here ;D
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