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Post by lacey on Apr 14, 2005 8:57:51 GMT -5
I would like to present my situation and hear your opinions. In elite gammon I played 8 games. 2 wins and 6 losses. One of those wins was against Rogerdeathmaker. Roger resigned after playing 6 games. Landskrona played 6 games, 2 wins and 4 losses and didn't play roger before he resigned. I tried to play Landskrona but he kept saying no. It is very difficult to challenge him as he is always on DND Lacey: hi hansi! I cant seem to catch you online when I am to play our legue game. I will be on sp off and on until 1830 stockholm time. hope to catch up with you. terry Lacey: league when you are thru with rockets? Landskrona BoIS: no...but latr tonite Lacey: ok...tell me what time so i can be sure to be online  Landskrona BoIS: not sure...a few hours Lacey: k Lacey: league when you are thru with tt? Landskrona BoIS: no....i can't now Lacey: ok.....i just seem to have a hard time catching up with you Needless to say I was never able to play my game with Landskrona. Now, he has dropped from elite and wants the freeplace scores wiped away. That means taking away my win from roger which would drop me from elite and keep landskrona in. When someone drops out of league in mid week do you think the scores, wins and losses, should be taken away or do you think that the situation should be handled as if that player just didnt play all his league games for the week? Is it fair to punish me because someone dropped out? It takes alot of time to play a 5 point gammon match. Is it fair to take away a win? Is it fair to take away those scores and drop me even tho I TRIED to play Landskrona? OPINIONS PLEASE! |
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Post by SelinaKyle on Apr 14, 2005 9:28:39 GMT -5
I've always felt that when people resign from the league, their resignation should be enforced at judgment time and not before. Although they may be forced to finish out the week, all they really have to do is decline whenever someone challenges them and they don't want to play. Plus, it's really not that long of a period of time to be stuck in a league you don't want to play in.
Last week in tt elite I think someone resigned a couple hours before judgment time. Everything is altered when that sort of thing happens, and it's not always fair.
I wouldn't be too happy about giving up a win OR a loss in a five point bg match. Those games are LOOOOOOOOOOOO :(OOOOOOOOOOOOONG
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Post by lacey on Apr 14, 2005 9:42:48 GMT -5
I should add the fact that I am now 3 games into the new week.....2 wins, 1 loss. That means if things are changed 4 of my games will be wiped away as if they were never played.  |
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Post by rogerdeathmaker on Apr 14, 2005 9:49:36 GMT -5
You will not be punished. The rules says all which not have meet the freeplace will get a victory against him.
But this rules seems not to work. I asked about it the week before when you left the league. (And i think also, if someone leaves you should not have a chance to reenter.) And got the answer all get a victory against freeplace. I have seen many times in couronne league someone leaves after 1 to matches even same day as the league started. And the other ones cant get any points against him/her.
Of course all should get a win against him/her. And the system with the green and red markers is also stupid in some cases. Some use them to get the points and even to get better set difference than a normal victory. I have seen twice someone had pass the leader in a league just because the green and the extra sets you get. If they have played a normal match they had not get to first place. And we should also remember this is just a game. But to many seems to take this to serious and do anything to win. But I think the problem with the dice cheaters are a much bigger problem. Even if its just a game it should be played fair.
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Post by lara1 on Apr 14, 2005 11:51:58 GMT -5
 well i think that if someone gives up league then all the games that they have played should be wiped, that should ALWAYS be the case , then this in turn will give everyonelse a chance to play the games with the people remaining in that league., i totally agree with lacey 5 point gammon games can take so loooooooooooog ,, lara x
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Post by lacey on Apr 14, 2005 12:21:15 GMT -5
Well, well,well, I found this post at another forum. It was made by Landskrona and he title it......'once again a dubious rearrangement' and said this...
The more I think about it the angrier I get. I tried yet one more time to play this game with Landskrona. I logged in the evening before judgement,FROM WORK, and sent him a message that said something like this..
Lacey- We need to play our league game but I am crazy busy at work. When will you be logged in again so that we can play it before judgement?
when I got home from work this was his reply...
Landskrona BoIS: i'll be on for a while now...but nothing tomorrow...i am working a lot....and the whole day tomorrow
I tried playing this game all the way til judgement time knowing full well that if I lost to him that I would be relegated and he would stay. As a matter of fact I had two declines in my favor last week and could have chose to take the auto win ASSURING me to stay in elite...but did I? NO....I even re-challenged one of the players that had previously declined me. So for Landskrona to feel that he has a rightful place in elite this week is just crap as far as I'm concerned. It's becoming more apparent to me why I was unable to get this game played with Landskrona. With him thinking that roger's scores were gonna get wiped away he stood nothing to gain by playing me.
Hansi, I know you are grouchy and moody all the time but for you to call this dubious is a new low even for you.
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Post by pingu on Apr 14, 2005 13:08:13 GMT -5
Obviously I had to decide either to choose Lacey or Landskrona and whoever I chose one will be treated unfairly from different point of views. With that said I can therefor not satisfy both parts. So I chose to let it be and let the settings on the shockplay servers have their way.
The other thing that made me make the choice I made was that if both players got what they had wanted, Lacey would still be in the elite cause obviously even if her win against rogerdeathmaker was removed she "should" have had a "green +" against Landskrona who multiple times declined her challenge.
So in this particular case I believe that I made the right decision to let it be, and to let the Shockplay servers have their way. But I agree with what Selinakyle said:
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Post by lacey on Apr 14, 2005 15:29:57 GMT -5
I have resigned from league. I REFUSE to let anyone think for a second that Rocketman has done something that is unjust or unfair just for my benefit. Landskrona, take your spot in elite that you feel you so justly deserve and for the record I was unaware of any of these problems until AFTER judgement and I logged in and got a message from Landskrona crying about being relegated.
KISS MY ASS LANDSKRONA
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Post by lacey on Apr 15, 2005 8:46:53 GMT -5
After speaking with a friend of mine last night I have decided NOT to resign from the league. Why should I resign when I have done NOTHING wrong. I play my league games each and every week. If I get a decline I will still play that person instead of taking an auto win. I play my games fairly and with integrity. If I get relegated because I lost too many games then so be it. I will humbly accept defeat . If I win gold then I will accept the win graciously.
I tried over and over and over again to play my game against Landskrona even knowing that if I were to lose that game I would drop.
It is just silly to completely wipe away games, win or losses, as if they never happened. Doing so in this situation would be taking away wins from FIVE people just to benefit ONE cry baby.
Landskrotum - you can still kiss my lily white ass
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Post by Rocketman on Apr 16, 2005 13:15:07 GMT -5
Let me explain the rules.
If a player resigns from league:
- his matches are not cleared, the matches played counts at judgement
- no matter what place he had in the group, his place is removed, and only one other player, the number 10 in the group, is moved down.
We made the system this way, because we do not want a player that wants to leave a league to being able to change the result, who wins the group, just by quitting.
Also, it often happens that a player regretted that he left, so it is easy for the admin to move him back to the place he had, and the result of his matches will be the same as before.
I also want to mention that some league admins have added rules that they think are important, e.g. in table tennis there are situations with net lag matches that are not covered of the current system.
In this particular case, i know that some players asked me what happens, and unfortunately i answered that the matches are cleared before judgement, which is wrong. Im very sorry that I made this mistake, and i will consider to make a compensation to Landskrona for this.
If Lacey and Landskrona had played eachother last week, the winner would certanly had stayed in the elite. So, I sugget that you two play a 5 point match and let the winner take the elite place.
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Post by Nine-Eleven on Apr 18, 2005 14:00:30 GMT -5
Hmmm, lemme address the situation as only 9/11 would  The more I think about it the angrier I get. Imagine that. I think we all realize by now when the Queen "B" gets angry, we ALL will eventually know about it. And if you dont bend over and kiss her arse, then she'll place "THE BAN BUTTON" on you b/c she keeps ROCKETS in her back pocket. to benefit ONE cry baby. Landskrotum - you can still kiss my lily white ass You would know all about CRYBABIES wouldnt ya. Like the pot calling the kettle black. Anyways, my advice Lace.... JUST QUIT YOUR BITCHIN   |
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Post by lacey on Apr 18, 2005 14:36:24 GMT -5
Hmmm, lemme address the situation as only 9/11 would Imagine that. I think we all realize by now when the Queen "B" gets angry, we ALL will eventually know about it. And if you dont bend over and kiss her arse, then she'll place "THE BAN BUTTON" on you b/c she keeps ROCKETS in her back pocket. You would know all about CRYBABIES wouldnt ya. Like the pot calling the kettle black. Anyways, my advice Lace.... JUST QUIT YOUR BITCHIN LOLOLOLOL.....thanks! I needed a good laff today! btw-in your lame attempt to slam me you've actually slammed Per....nice going! |
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Post by Nine-Eleven on Apr 18, 2005 14:51:26 GMT -5
LOLOLOLOL.....thanks! I needed a good laff today! btw-in your lame attempt to slam me you've actually slammed Per....nice going! Nice comeback, I thought you would do better than that. Maybe you should re-read it though, or maybe your just in denial and you actually think everyone really likes you. LOLOLOL Everyones sick of your bitchin and lame threats of banishment. Time to step down from your perch where the crows nest BAAACH BAAACH! ps- If you want to refer Per to the analogy of having ROCKETS in your back pocket as me slamming Per, then I guess thats your deal. I never mentioned anybodies names. BUT........IT DOES GO TO SHOW THAT YOU REALLY DO BELIEVE YOU HAVE PER IN YOUR POCKET. Nice selfish jesture towards a supposed friend. Seems to me your the ONE who constantly cries, bitches, and stays on his arse for every problem you seem to have. |
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Post by Nine-Eleven on Apr 18, 2005 15:12:04 GMT -5
HAIL TO THE TRUE QUEEN BEE OF SCRIBBLE!  EMMIE! |
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Post by lacey on Apr 18, 2005 15:41:03 GMT -5
Nice comeback, I thought you would do better than that. Maybe you should re-read it though, or maybe your just in denial and you actually think everyone really likes you. LOLOLOL say it ain't sooooo Joe! You mean.......................................... honestly....................................... GULP....that there is somebody out there that doesn't like me? BOOOO HOOOO HOOOO |
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Post by Nine-Eleven on Apr 18, 2005 16:10:35 GMT -5
 Actually you misquoted me, I didnt say somebody, I said everybody. Next time, TRY doing the mature thing, and address what was actually said, instead of what you want to hear. I know its so hard for you to CONTROL yourself, but please try and do so, cause everyone is OVER the LACEY TEMPER TANTRUMS Your right....BOOOHOOO HOO HOOO Cry me a river Lace
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Post by lacey on Apr 18, 2005 16:18:04 GMT -5
Cry me a river Lace It's MRS. SHOCKPLAY to you |
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Post by max69 on Apr 18, 2005 16:24:01 GMT -5
Actually you misquoted me, I didnt say somebody, I said everybody. And what exactly gives you the right to speak for everybody? I know you certainly don't speak for me. Or maybe you mean the "everybody" in your crowded mixed up little mind... |
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Post by lacey on Apr 18, 2005 16:40:30 GMT -5
And what exactly gives you the right to speak for everybody? I know you certainly don't speak for me. Or maybe you mean the "everybody" in your crowded mixed up little mind... awwww thanks max! |
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Post by Rocketman on Apr 18, 2005 16:49:18 GMT -5
Yes, you said everybody, or actually everyone, and lacey quoted you right. But you did write somethig like "do you actually think everyone likes you..." as though you doubt it. So, if this is not true, that everyone likes lacey...well... According to DeMorgans Law, these to expressions are equal: NOT (EVERYBODY LIKES Lacey) and SOMEBODY DOES NOT LIKE LACEY Let me guess who this "somebody" is,  |
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Post by Nine-Eleven on Apr 18, 2005 17:03:45 GMT -5
Yes, you said everybody, or actually everyone, and lacey quoted you right. But you did write somethig like "do you actually think everyone likes you..." as though you doubt it. So, if this is not true, that everyone likes lacey...well... According to DeMorgans Law, these to expressions are equal: NOT (EVERYBODY LIKES Lacey) and SOMEBODY DOES NOT LIKE LACEY Let me guess who this "somebody" is, Aww, here comes Per to the rescue. I stated my opinion, she didnt like it, and TO BE QUITE HONEST ROCKETMAN, I think ALOT of people feel the same way about Lacey as I do, they're just too afraid to say anything to her because she kisses your arse and you let her do whatever she wants to do. Its like giving a child keys to a car......WRECKLESS If you want to come and defend her, you have every right to do so, but to be quite honest, she's thinks she's got you wrapped around her little finger, and all she has to do is give you a little pull when she wants something done. Kind of like a yo yo, ya know LIKE I SAID BEFORE LACE, QUIT YOUR BITCHIN, WE ARE TIRED OF YOUR TEMPER TANTRUMS. Nuff said, wouldnt you say Per? |
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Post by Nine-Eleven on Apr 18, 2005 17:11:14 GMT -5
It's MRS. SHOCKPLAY to you And then she GLOATS IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE PER, do you not see this or do you just choose to ignore it? Damn man, you could have atleast picked a hot, young looking chic to do your dirty work, instead of a wrinkled up PRUNE who constantly complains. 
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Post by Rocketman on Apr 18, 2005 17:55:34 GMT -5
This "thread" was started both on this forum, and on the other forum (forum of the rings). And on the latter forum, it has been very interesting discussion with vivid arguments, and almost 100 replies. And I think it is very interestng, because there might be a way to improve the league system. On this forum however, the discussion has drifted far far away. Nine-Eleven has asked me to stay out of the convo between him and Lacey, and to "mind my own business". And that is exactly what I intend to do now. I wont waste any more energy reading this thread. So, everyone that wants to discuss what this thread was originally about, go here: www.couronnedeluxe.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1735 |
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Post by Nine-Eleven on Apr 18, 2005 20:25:54 GMT -5
Finally someone with some sense ;D On this forum however, the discussion has drifted far far away. It happened looong before I got here. I just stated my opinion for her telling Landskrona, who happens to actually be a good guy, to kiss her "lily white ass." Nice jesture by someone who is supposed to "keep there cool" as a "prominent figure" at sp.
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Post by lacey on Apr 18, 2005 21:16:16 GMT -5
It happened looong before I got here. I just stated my opinion for her telling Landskrona, who happens to actually be a good guy, to kiss her "lily white ass." Nice jesture by someone who is supposed to "keep there cool" as a "prominent figure" at sp. Hey nine-eleven...................................................... KISS MY LILY WHITE ASS |
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Post by Nine-Eleven on Apr 19, 2005 9:24:39 GMT -5
Hey Lace......... I just might if your ass wasnt soooo WRINKLED AND DRIED UP  Eeeewwww!! Crusty ole lady, is there anything worse? |
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Post by King-Hazzer on Apr 19, 2005 10:22:35 GMT -5
Rocketman or Lacey ....
some should lock this thread it has gotten out of hand and its leading in to bad things like saying rude and hurtful things which shouldnt be aloud. it has gotten to far. so if you lock this thread it wouldnt be carried on. but if you dont lock it , your making things worse by incoraging it. i thinks its outrages and i hate to she messages of hate to each other. Im not taking sides To anyone and i cant see this getting sorted out so why dont you just try and put up with each other. dont talk to each other, just carry on like normal people would. not if you see Lacey or if Lacey see's Nine-Eleven Say like Kiss my lily ass or something just leave it out.
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Post by lacey on Apr 19, 2005 10:47:09 GMT -5
Eeeewwww!! Crusty ole lady, is there anything worse? Yes! A wee willie winkle like yours! |
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Post by max69 on Apr 19, 2005 11:14:19 GMT -5
Nine-Eleven, knock it off, you're pushin' your luck. You gave an opinion which had nothing to do with the topic of the thread and Lacey retaliated like any normal person would. In one of your posts you ended with "Nuff said", now how 'bout you listen to your own words and leave it!
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Post by Hook on Apr 19, 2005 11:23:21 GMT -5
[ I just might if your ass wasnt soooo WRINKLED AND DRIED UP Eeeewwww!! Crusty ole lady, is there anything worse? Yes! A wee willie winkle like yours! LMAO! Whats next… “Your mother wears army boots!” |
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